OR since the jibs are the sail that most offten goes first then new jibs for anyone willing to donate there boat ! ! ! OR the spinaker a complete set of sails mite be a little coastly so a jib and spin or the money there is a solution we need to find it not create a war about it... and in the IROCK serise as in the alter cup there is always a car that everyone perfers and says is faster but oh well it is what it is as they say ! ! ! !