Mike, <br> <br>You can buy my H20 if you want to! Just kidding. <br> <br>Where in your logic does a boat get to ADD sail area and then remove crew weight??? Is the H20 that bad of a design? Evidently not, we BOTH sail one. I sail my H20 usually at the 345 crew weight range my 200 lbs and my crews 145 lbs. Are we quick -- usually. Would we be quicker if we lost weight -- no! If we added sail area -- Hell yes. After sailing this boat design for six years I would like the ability to soup up this hull shape rather than hop designs. <br> <br>This becomes the focus of the issue if you let an engine builder (sailmaker) build the best engine for you and your "car" and you know that everyone else out there has the same basic "chassis". Your still going to kick butt! Have we ever ran out of downhaul (even thought we are team beef) Yes. Have we ever wished for more wind to keep up with those skinny bastards? YES! Total weight combined with proper saildesign makes an even formula. And makes it less a rules play of weight versus sailplan for your weight class == too complex. <br> <br>Will somepeople get more than they can handle YES, will they get it fixed after they crash out of control -- you betcha. <br> <br>What are the thoughts regarding a conference call for everyone to discuss this issue. <br> <br>Steve<br><br>