Hi Sam ,Mark Mike Steve ,-
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<br>-It,s funny how the negative context always provokes responce much more than the positive , -it is the same with news t v , bad news and controversy sells , it is why so often dialogue on forums is based in negative ,--the open forum now to a point where it is just as one described it ,-{the trash tabloid of sail forums }-
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<br>-Notice the F-18 guys just skipped any forum discussion , -
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<br>-This 20 class would similarly be easy to establish if we had the Fox and Inter on the same page -built to the SAME specifications , we would have the main mfg. Co,s and classes in the U S in agreement as the 18s do and dealer /mfg. involvement ,-
<br> WE DO NOT HAVE THIS , -to falsely imply that this is an existing set of conditions that somehow this group that is attempting to form is responcible for is ABSERD -
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<br>-PLEASE propose some SOLUTIONS , we know what the problems are , do not repeat lists of them , do not tell us how wonderfull you think 18s or 16s are as several have previously done, do not tell us how wonderfull One design or one class is , we understand all these existing conditions . --If you can't propose a constructive solution then at least state idealy what YOU would like to see .
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<br>-If Hobie Europe will bring the Fox to match the Inter 20 --weight 388 ,-390 ---carbon or =mast ,--208 main sail area -we are set , --none of the 200 Inters are going to cut sailarea and add 30 pounds to the boat . -Hobie does not seem to currently be promoting the FOX , --If any have the ability to lobby Hobie to upgrade this boat,--NOW is the time to step forward .
<br>--Why would any want to go slower when F 18s and 16s are already faster in some wind ranges and conditions .
<br>-The iF 20 HAS THE CONCEPTS AND IDEALS CORRECT , -
<br> but they are using an already outmoded heavy rule , as they are already seeing better performing 18s and 16s sail by at higher speeds .
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<br>-Rather than building a class on I-20 specs most would rather just build a larger O D class.---it makes better sence under the circumstances handed us.
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<br>-Some are leaning towards a limited developement class that could include all existing active 20s in N A AS OPPOSED TO A RACING CLASS EXCLUSIVELY FOR NEW HEAVY FORMULA CATS ONLY .as the only logical alternative , -
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<br>-Summed up my current thoughts on the potential future of the F-20 N A Class ,--under min weight , the last post currently .-More information creative ideas ,new concepts proposed and discussion is needed , -
<br> Hopefully some good positive things will derive from it .
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<br> Carl
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