dbncsu, I think I have sailed with you before on lake wheeler. I was there back when we were trying to do that winter racing series. The two times I went on Lake wheeler during the summer turned me off with all the skiboats circling me. I haven't been out on jordan during the summer but if it is the same or worse I will move to wheeler next year since it is cheaper. If I find some time I might join back with the club for some of the trips to the coast.

Trey, I am still looking for a cheap box and may contact you after the year's end if your friend will still build a new one. It depends on what I find when I visit my parents over the holiday.