| Carbon cloth(uni and biaxial) and hard foam sourci #113557 08/04/07 08:20 PM 08/04/07 08:20 PM |
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Posts: 805 Gainesville, FL 32607 USA | Carbon cloth (uni and biaxial) and hard foam sourcing? Where to get good material in the USA at a fair price? In the Southern US, 3/16 inch 316 alloy S.S. pop rivets have become unavailable: now what? Source?
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Posts: 461 Victoria, Oztralia | Monel Pop Rivets. Again not usually available at your local hardware shop, but engineering supplies have them over here.
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Posts: 805 Gainesville, FL 32607 USA | Monel is generally too hard for use with aluminum or fiberglass.
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Posts: 461 Victoria, Oztralia | Hi dacarls
Monel is what a lot of riggers use over here, including Greg Goodall who put me on to them. I have just brought a heavy duty rivet gun, with handles like a swaging tool or bolt cutters, makes it alot easier and was about the same price as a quality regular hand rivetter, it was cheap, but its doin the job for the moment, when I went looking for one I expected to pay 2-3 times what I paid.
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#113561 08/06/07 08:29 PM 08/06/07 08:29 PM | Anonymous
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Posts: 190 | I get carbon fiber fron Soller Composites (603 934 10290), peel-ply and sealant tape from Fiberglass Supply (509 493 3464) and mold wax and mold release from Sweet Composites. Also if you want glass at a good price call www.thayercraft.comI am in the process of building an A-Cat and am using their Unidirectional 6.0 OZ cloth.
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | How can monel rivets be too hard to use when compared to stainless steel ones ?
SS ones take alot more force to pop, are harder to remove when damaged and induce galvaic corrosion sooner when used on aluminium.
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Posts: 190 | I have put a small howto on vacuum bagging and making spreaders and other small carbon parts on my blog site.
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Posts: 190 | Looking forward to seeing how you do the part where the diamond wires pass over the spreaders! Are there any aerodynamic advantages to "foil shaped" spreaders compared to regular tubes, in real life? As for the diamond wires, a notch cut in the ends and then two holes for SS safety wire to hold the diamond stay in place. The tip of each spreader has a block of ebony, which is very hard stuff and this spreads the compression load out over the hole surface of the spreader. I do not have any numbers to support this, but I don't know how an airfoil shape could not have "aerodynamic advantages" over a round tube.
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Posts: 190 | When you weigh more then your boat every little bit helps. I building an A-cat and hope to bring it in at 85KG and I am 195 cm and weigh over 100 KG.
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