The snow has fallen here in duluth mn, alas...the sailing season is done. So i've taken my boat apart and began upgrading some parts that are in bad condition. If anyone has any swivel cleats or the new style main traveler car, email me and let me know [email]wrinkledpants@hotmail.com.[/email] I'd be glad to take those off your hands. Which leads me to my question....I'm looking to put on a jib traveler control system (as i hate crawling to up front to move it manualy) and i was wondering what car to use? It seems that the stock metal ones wouldn't slide as easily as the tren tec one or the "IT" as it's called in Murrays. I have the really old syle ones ('71 h16) where the cleat is right on the car, so i still have alot of options as far as placement of the 360 cleats in the crossbar. Any advice would be helpful!! Happy sailing!

I'm in the same position,my H16 is an 1982.i was thinking about buying the travelersystem shown in Murray's. If i do however, I will get it thru sailing Pro Shop.Does anyone have any experience with this control system?

I have used two systems:



1st, I tried the Black Plastic cars with Murray's #01-3112. They worked great, but the line does not run as free through the plastic. My crew had trouble trimming the jib tight. I am much bigger and stronger, and this was not a problem for me.



2nd I used the Murry's # 01-3120 System. I love it! Everything works great.



The second option is much better.



David

I was just looking at the pictures, and feel the need to add a little more information. On the 2nd system listed in my previous post, I had trouble with my sheet getting tangled in the original swivel cleats that are used for the traveler control. I removed these cleats and put a couple ronstan cleats on the corner casting.



The picture of the 01-3112 system shows these cleats mounted on the cross-bar. I initially mounted mine there, and found that they were to low, so I positioned them on the courner casting, and mounted my cheek block approximately where it is on the picture but with a slight angle to ensure the line ran straight through the cleat.



David

Any chance you could post a picture of your setup, so we can see your installation locations? Thanks

Yes, I could post a picture, but it may be a couple of weeks before I can get a picture.



David

Dave



Hobie has sold the same 'Type' of jib car for some time that is shown in the Murrays kit. I liked the looks of them and bought a pair to eventually work into a complete jib system. (Like the Murrays Kit)

After I got them, It turns out that Hobie recently changed over to ronstan cleats, which makes them essentially the same cars that Murrays sells. if I had known this I would have bought the whole 01-3120 kit from Murrays. Oh well...





Maybe the pictures will help with a couple of questions.



The Murrays catalog picture doesn't show a shock cord return system on the 'crossbar picture' Where does the shock cord attach to the cars?? The Buttons??





What holds the button or plunger up and keeps it from dropping down to lock in the jib track?? Is it just the shock cord or cleat line wrapped around the button or something fancy.



Mike

I'm really new to this raked back mast idea and i was wondering what that has to do with the jib traveler? I see these ads for low profile jib blocks for raked back masts, but how would the blocks interfere with the mast?

Reid

Raked back mast caused the forestay and jib to be back at a sharper angle, lowering the relative position of the jib clew moving it towards the front crossbar.

Mike,

I hog-ringed my traveler control line around the base of the knob on the traveler car. The line keeps the pin pulled up. It works great. I will get some pictures in a few days and post them.

David

You can make a very good traveler system relatively inexpensive by just riveting a bullet block on each front corner casting and one small cam cleat [with wedge] just a few inches from the bullet block. Use hog clips to attach control line from your combination traveler and cleat so that the stop pin is always up. Then attach a piece of bungee cord from the port and starboard jib traveler cleat comb. so the cars will return to the inboard end of track except when you cleat the traveler car out with your control line. Welcome to A Fleet book has a few different options. Contact me directly and I can scan the page from the book.

Stew

Here is a picture of my traveler system. I guess that I am going to have to do a couple of post to show all of the pictures.

David

Traveler car.

another shot

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Okay, Let me try again.

David

Traveler...note hog ring around the pin.

Looks like I am doing better now with my new camera and stuff! If anyone wants any other pictures, I can do them now....

Well, darn, missed one.

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