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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: ] #237297
09/08/11 10:55 AM
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TOPIC: So without going back through 6 pages of conjecture, how does one register a vessel, in this case a beach catamaran, in the state of florida without a title and how much does it cost?

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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: ] #237298
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No one is trying to censor you.

You're right, tangents are a real (and annoying) part of life on forums.

While house hunting, materials, and garages are annoying enough; when the tangents get into taxes and politics, that raises the annoyance level to a new level.

There are many of us who purposely don't open the Drill-type threads. I guess that we're just asking that you respect that.

Mike

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Headhunter] #237304
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Since your boat is from out of country, and probably never had the paperwork from the dealer... unless you can get Yves to send you new (old papers)... you are in for a world of pain trying to title it.

Originally Posted by Headhunter
TOPIC: So without going back through 6 pages of conjecture, how does one register a vessel, in this case a beach catamaran, in the state of florida without a title and how much does it cost?



http://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/faqboat.html#6


When a vessel has been sold and the owner is no longer available to provide proof of ownership, how do I, as the purchaser, get information to contact the titled owner in order to obtain the certificate of title?

Notify your local tax collector or license plate agency in writing stating the problem and provide the vessel's Florida registration number. The local tax collector or license plate agency may provide the name and address of the titled owner with the necessary instructions for transferring the ownership of the vessel into your name. However, some agencies do not provide ownership information for vessels to the public. Instead, as stated in DMV Procedure TL-07, they may provide the titled owner (by writing directly to the owner of record) with the purchaser's released contact information (name and address) and any necessary instructions. The owner then has the option to contact the purchaser to assist them. You may also contact the department to obtain ownership information for the vessel owner by completing a form HSMV 85054, Motor Vehicle/Vessel Records Request. The department's mailing address is shown at the top of this form.


What should the purchaser of a vessel do if the titled owner does not assist in obtaining the certificate of title or an executed bill of sale?

A Florida court order would be required to issue a certificate of title in the purchaser’s name.


Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: SoggyCheetoh] #237305
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Originally Posted by SoggyCheetoh
seems like someone is just in the mood to argue.


It's just his time of the month. Just say the usual, Yes dear, Yes dear. Yes I'm listening. OK. Yes Dear. wink


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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: catman] #237306
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Originally Posted by catman
Originally Posted by SoggyCheetoh
seems like someone is just in the mood to argue.


It's just his time of the month. Just say the usual, Yes dear, Yes dear. Yes I'm listening. OK. Yes Dear. wink


I told you to stop calling me "Dear", and no we can't hold hands

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Headhunter] #237307
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Originally Posted by Headhunter
TOPIC: So without going back through 6 pages of conjecture, how does one register a vessel, in this case a beach catamaran, in the state of florida without a title and how much does it cost?


I think you need the title (unless there's an age cutoff, such as boats older than 10 years don't need a title).

Is this a new boat, or bought from the original owner? You might be able to work through the dealer/manufacturer to obtain a copy of the certificate of origin, and try to go from there.

Mike

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: brucat] #237308
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I have never registered my cat and if asked I'll play dumb, it usually works. I think Hans gave a bill of sale that I tucked away somewhere 30 years ago. There will have to be a grandfather clause somewhere if taken to task.

In Palm Beach County we do have a special Annual Parking Permit for county parks that have saltwater access for boat trailers. I wouldn’t feel so bad if they taxed all the golf carts at the same time but you know us Yachtsmen we have deep pockets right?

We use to have a county commisioner who was a cat sailor and boater years ago, that supported our causes. I think he is out of jail now - he accept donations.


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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: ] #237310
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Originally Posted by MN3
so house hunting, large garages, state income tax, cinderblock house construction etc are all acceptable off-thread comments, but talking about state budgets are political and non acceptable?

I call BS

I wasn't starting a political discussion, we are talking about florida still..This is a FORUM for goodness sake... get over it if the topic goes a little off skew


Pretty much...but political discussions take 2 responses to degrade to name calling and hateful retort. Getting off track about something simple like housing is innocuous.


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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: ] #237313
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Originally Posted by MN3
Since your boat is from out of country, and probably never had the paperwork from the dealer...


You're in the same boat, are you not? Any plans to contact Yves or just let it ride?

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Jake] #237316
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That makes sence and is the only answer so far i dont want to argue.

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Originally Posted by MN3
so house hunting, large garages, state income tax, cinderblock house construction etc are all acceptable off-thread comments, but talking about state budgets are political and non acceptable?

I call BS

I wasn't starting a political discussion, we are talking about florida still..This is a FORUM for goodness sake... get over it if the topic goes a little off skew


Pretty much...but political discussions take 2 responses to degrade to name calling and hateful retort. Getting off track about something simple like housing is innocuous.

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Headhunter] #237317
09/08/11 02:23 PM
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I contacted Yves when the law went into effect. No responce.

I also called Jill to ask if she may have been the dealer for my cat... she then contacted the State Tax Chief(?) who didn't even know about the new law.

The info Jill gave me didn't satisfy me (her answer was opposite what the new law stated) , and at the time she was using the "boat exclusively for racing" answer... which seems to no longer be a valid remedy

Someone on our beach has some blank dealer forms that could be fudged and used. I personally will wait for a ticket before i take any actions.

Even if i got a ticket, i wouldn't go with the fake forms.
It's not worth the risk to me


Originally Posted by Headhunter
Originally Posted by MN3
Since your boat is from out of country, and probably never had the paperwork from the dealer...


You're in the same boat, are you not? Any plans to contact Yves or just let it ride?

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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Jake] #237319
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Block houses - heck ya.
When I moved to South FL I remember a childhood story and when the realtor showed me the straw and wood house I was not interested. I wanted the brick house for the hurricane Wolf are we in W’s yet this year!


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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: TheManShed] #237320
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Not to mention those little bugs called TERMITES. So far they can't eat concrete.


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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: catman] #237355
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can someone talk about girls jumping on trampolines? That tangent would at least be worth reading.. And I doubt it would carry much controversy or vitriol...


Jay

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: waterbug_wpb] #237357
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
can someone talk about girls jumping on trampolines? That tangent would at least be worth reading.. And I doubt it would carry much controversy or vitriol...


you want to "talk" about girls jumping on trampolines? I say pics or it never happened.


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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Jake] #237358
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ya mean like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTc5oUKS6xg

reposted without permission, so don't look.


Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Clayton] #237359
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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: sail7seas] #237366
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Originally Posted by sail7seas


That is Frickin' hilarious.


"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"

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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #237372
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OK, now that we’ve completely gone off the deep end…

I see your:
Originally Posted by Clayton

And raise with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHbOTfETx28&feature=related

Best part is the slow-motion replay (like there was a need)…


As for this…
Originally Posted by sail7seas

All I can say is, anyone remember Robert Schimmel? “ 9-1-1. 9-1-1…”

RIP, Bob…

Mike

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #237395
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
How about back on topic?


The next time i am asked to get back on topic ... the answer is NO

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