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Re: New crew weight limit for Olympic cat? [Re: pgp] #245094
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Either way he will have to find time to respond to you.

I treat the forum as a global beach of friends. Would you bark "When will the minutes be published?" or would you walk over, extend your hand, and say "Hey, I'm really a supporter of getting this right and believe publishing the minutes sooner will show strong leadership" Certainly would be more diplomatic and dignified.







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Re: New crew weight limit for Olympic cat? [Re: Mary] #245096
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I didn't bark, that's your characterization.

In the way of friendly response, you were there you could provide a brief synopsis.


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Re: New crew weight limit for Olympic cat? [Re: Kris Hathaway] #245103
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Originally Posted by Kris Hathaway

Would you bark "When will the minutes be published?" or would you walk over, extend your hand, and say "Hey, I'm really a supporter of getting this right and believe publishing the minutes sooner will show strong leadership" Certainly would be more diplomatic and dignified.


I chuckle ever time I read that post. Seriously who talks like that? I never saw you call Schneider on his tone... I call shenanigans!


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Re: New crew weight limit for Olympic cat? [Re: David Ingram] #245105
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I never saw you call Schneider on his tone


TONE.... I don't do tone....

I am really really sensitive to the normal... "Happy Talk" that sailors engage in....

I wrote them damn report... I will check again and see where it is stuck.

Mark


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Re: New crew weight limit for Olympic cat? [Re: David Ingram] #245106
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Come'on....do not perpetuate "Ugly American" behavior. It is more so who Pete was beating on.

I give Mark a fair amount of grief also but I leave Todd to really make a statement grin!



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Growling to beating. Imagine that from a simple question.


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LOL...and now the martyr? wink



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Re: New crew weight limit for Olympic cat? [Re: Kris Hathaway] #245125
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What I want to know is, was it anyone that will actually be part of the selection committee for the new Olympic catamaran?


Originally Posted by Kris Hathaway
Originally Posted by TEAMVMG
Who are you quoting harry?

It is more like paraphrasing. Other items included that it will absolutely be a mixed team for 2016 (some think one & done - moving on to separate male & female events in 2020). I got a sense that the target weight dictated a younger team, 25-30 something for the US before middle age weight onset and that it is incumbent to support getting multihulls into the collegiate sailing scene.

The World Health Organization has a huge database for its BMI calculator. The 130-140 kg range is easily within the "normal" range for a mixed team.

As far as discussion as to which boat? It was pure speculation based on the above parameters. Frankly, I believe some emphatically interjected that Hobie was NOT interested in submitting the H16 w/spin.


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Re: New crew weight limit for Olympic cat? [Re: Kris Hathaway] #245129
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Originally Posted by Kris Hathaway
LOL...and now the martyr? wink



Hardly. I just have no problem saying things in the open.

USS wants to be a tightly controlled autocracy to the point of squelching any public discussion. Why not just admit it and move on? Or ignore it and move on.

Noone cares! You had 200 responses to a survey out of a total population of 40,000 USS members. That's 1/2 of 1%. There is no multihull community outside USS to serve. I had thought MHC might try to turn that around but apparently not.

Enjoy!


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Re: New crew weight limit for Olympic cat? [Re: Mary] #245135
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Pete,

The US Sailing Meeting was a very pleasent affair ... Mike/Brucat did a outstanding job of organizing the MHC meeting w/ basically minimal or no time ... but most importantly was the fact that "people w/ authority and influence" SEARCHED us out, making time in their very busy schedules and ASKING to meet w/ us. Ms Dina Kowalshyn was actually waiting outside of the MHC meeting waiting for/on us as we exited. Ms Dina is on the Olympic Boat Selection Committee, is a Naval Architect/Enginneer, she was frank, direct and freely answered all question asked of her. It was a very pleasant "adhoc" meeting in the Loews Hotels Dining Room ... and very informative.

Now this process is just not about the United Stated, but the whole bigger world too. This is a negotiation involving alot of different groups worldwide ... and sometimes you have to believe that your representatives have your interests in mind and will TRY to negotiate the best deal they can ...

Pete, I'm half Scotch-Irish ... half German ... this means I'm Celtic and am all HARD HEADED ... so if I'm suggesting you should maybe tone it down aliitle (and maybe switch to De-Caf) ... please keep that in mind. I would recommend that you carefully re-read your last post ... (and what percentage do you think Multihulls represent out of ALL the sailboats there are ....)

Harry Murphey

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I don't see enough catamarans to worry about. The very few cat sailors who are passionate about the sport will continue, they will be few in number.

You had a nice meeting? Wonderful! What's so hard about saying that?


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