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C2 and Viper Owners #280472
09/09/15 11:51 AM
09/09/15 11:51 AM
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Clermont, FL, USA
David Ingram Offline OP
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From Jill on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/robbie.daniel.18?fref=ts

F16 VIper and F18 C2 Shroud anchor upgrade. If you have a Viper and have not had your Shroud anchors upgraded and are coming to the Nationals in Sarasota, please contact Jill at 727-734-0799 or funinthesunweb@gmail.com We are going to try and replace these at the F16 Nationals in Sarasota in October. Replacement days will be Oct 16 & 17 for the C2.s and the 27th & 28th for the Vipers. You must be on the list to do it then.


David Ingram
F18 USA 242
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"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda
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Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280473
09/09/15 02:03 PM
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What's the failure mode? I'm the 2nd owner, so not sure if my '10 C2 was ever done. Anchors are rock solid, but...


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Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280474
09/09/15 03:43 PM
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They snap off inside the hull. Check with Jill or Goodall Design when they stopped shipping boats that had the issue. You'll be able to tell if yours have been fixed post delivery because there will be a 1 inch scar in the gelcoat around the chain plate.

PM me your email address and I'll send you Jim Boyer's guide on how to effect the repair.

Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280475
09/09/15 05:09 PM
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SE MI / NE IN
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I had heard of some kind of campaign to replace these, but have to admit I hadn't taken it very seriously. Not liking the idea of a sudden failure. Not sure when or if I'll have my boat in Florida this winter. Will send a pm.


Jeff R

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Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280476
09/09/15 05:28 PM
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Edited highlights or the repair:
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Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280477
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then...

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Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280478
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Finally..

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Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: ] #280479
09/09/15 06:41 PM
09/09/15 06:41 PM
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Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus...
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Is that tang just a bent piece of stainless with a nut holding it on the threaded bit? Would have liked to see the new tang before it was installed.


Have Fun
Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280481
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No the tang is a machined lug with a drilled and tapped thread that screws down onto the thread shown in the third last image. I believe from Rehmbo that this detail might have changed as he describes his as more like an eye bolt.

Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280482
09/10/15 03:14 AM
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Scarecrow, that is the old capricorn tangs, the C2 / Viper uses and eye bolt. this has nothing to do with that repair nor are there any forecast failures.


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Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280483
09/10/15 03:49 AM
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So what is the upgrade Jill and Robbie are offering to do?

Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280484
09/10/15 04:08 AM
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Hobart, Tasmania, Oz.
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changing metric eye bolts for imperial ones.. or so i have heard...


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Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: Dazz] #280486
09/10/15 06:02 AM
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Clermont, FL, USA
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Originally Posted by Dazz
changing metric eye bolts for imperial ones.. or so i have heard...


That is not correct. The eye bolts have been known to fail and are being swapped out for larger ones. The new ones may be imperial but that has nothing to do with the issue.

Jeff, I doubt your boat was been swapped out, email Jill and ask her to send you the hardware and the instructions I'm sure it's not that difficult.


David Ingram
F18 USA 242
http://www.solarwind.solar

"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda
"Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall
"You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280487
09/10/15 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Dazz
changing metric eye bolts for imperial ones.. or so i have heard...


That is not correct. The eye bolts have been known to fail and are being swapped out for larger ones. The new ones may be imperial but that has nothing to do with the issue.

Jeff, I doubt your boat was swapped out, email Jill and ask here to send you the hardware and the instructions I'm sure it's not that difficult.


That is pretty incredible dealer support...I have to say.


Jake Kohl
Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: Jake] #280488
09/10/15 07:10 AM
09/10/15 07:10 AM
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SE MI / NE IN
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Originally Posted by Jake
That is pretty incredible dealer support...I have to say.

In my case its not their fault. I'm about 1200 miles from them and haven't had my boat in FL in a couple years (something I need to rectify this year!)


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Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: Jake] #280489
09/10/15 08:09 AM
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David Ingram Offline OP
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Originally Posted by Jake


That is pretty incredible dealer support...I have to say.


100% agree! To be honest it's the only reason I'm on a C2 instead of an Infusion.


David Ingram
F18 USA 242
http://www.solarwind.solar

"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda
"Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall
"You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280490
09/10/15 09:20 AM
09/10/15 09:20 AM
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Naples, FL
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I noticed a rust stain on the first few pictures showing the damage.

Wonder if that stain's appearance indicated some sort of crevice corrosion prior to the ultimate failure?


Jay

Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: rehmbo] #280491
09/10/15 09:23 AM
09/10/15 09:23 AM
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David Ingram Offline OP
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Originally Posted by rehmbo

In my case its not their fault. I'm about 1200 miles from them and haven't had my boat in FL in a couple years (something I need to rectify this year!)


Yep! Steeplechase, Tradewinds and Charlotte Harbour is a great winter series. Plus there is that week long event in October :-)


David Ingram
F18 USA 242
http://www.solarwind.solar

"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda
"Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall
"You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: David Ingram] #280492
09/10/15 09:25 AM
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Infusion support has been fixed-Nacra NA is under new management. Our Mk. 2 is very well built and very quick.


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Re: C2 and Viper Owners [Re: Jake] #280493
09/10/15 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake

That is pretty incredible dealer support...I have to say.


My first though, as well. Good work.


Tom
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