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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Jake] #85985
10/04/06 06:08 PM
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Notice: Jake Kohl is the only F18 sailor that is not a weenie. Previous comment did not in any way apply to or around Mr. Kohl. That is all.


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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: NCSUtrey] #85986
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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: ] #85987
10/04/06 06:36 PM
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“an island in the Pacific....
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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: hobie1616] #85988
10/05/06 07:13 AM
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I think there have been funnybone removal procedures going around :P

Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: MauganN20] #85989
10/05/06 10:03 AM
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You ****s are making me want a N20... if there were one for sale in CT I would probably buy the damn thing now. Stop it! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Wet1] #85990
10/05/06 10:38 AM
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Hmmmm....http://new-england-catamarans.com/hot.html

"2004 NACRA (INTER) 20

In excellent condition, stored indoors in winter. Raced one season then only sailed a few times. Carbon mast, spinnaker with snuffer system. Daggerboards, rudders and sails in great condition. Includes an almost new galvanized trailer with cradles and a sail tube and new Cat Trax (used once). Located in CT. Asking $12,000."


Dooit, Dooooooit, you won't regret it.


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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Chris9] #85991
10/05/06 10:47 AM
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The question presents itself of why so many "great I-20's" deals are on offer at this particular time.

If it is such a great boat and class shouldn't there be a shortage of second hand boat ?

I rest my case.

Wouter


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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Wouter] #85992
10/05/06 10:52 AM
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Chris,
If they had a smiley beating the crap out of another smiley, I'd be posting that right now! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />



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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Wet1] #85993
10/05/06 11:15 AM
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Hmm.... check the classies on this very site. A 2000 in Mass. for $8500. come on, you know you want it.

Wout, given the number of I20's built, there is actually a fairly low number of second hand boats for sale. I know, cause I was looking for one a while ago. Now, i'don't want to get into a debate about one class being better than another (especially since I'm the first to admit the flaws of an SMOD class), but if you are a heavier person that wants to race double handed, this is really the best option in the US right now (or going on a serious diet, but i don't consider that a great option).


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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Wet1] #85994
10/05/06 11:23 AM
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Thanks, you made my day! pst ..... its a great boat!!!!


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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Wouter] #85995
10/05/06 12:02 PM
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The question presents itself of why so many "great I-20's" deals are on offer at this particular time.

If it is such a great boat and class shouldn't there be a shortage of second hand boat ?

I rest my case.

Wouter

While I've given a lot of thought to a F16, my weight suggests I look elsewhere. I was 225 lb. (102 kg) this morning. For single handing this might work on a F16, but for doubles I'd need to find a dwarf to crew! I like the idea of something like the I20 because it gives me the freedom to grab just about anyone for crew.

Racing isn't the only use for beach cats. The reality is most people use their cat more for recreational usage than for racing (certainly my plan anyway). The I20 also allows me to bring the chick out w/o as much concern with pitchpolling, plus it offers more room on the tramp for other activities. I haven't PP my H16 yet with her on the boat, but I can tell you it would be the last time she got on the boat if it were to happen with her on it! I want to keep sailing a 'positive' experience for her rather than having her associate sailing with being violently beaten up then ending up in the water for all of those hungry sharks to attack her (you know the deal...). I certainly don't have to keep her interested in sailing, but it sure keeps the door open for spending more time on the boat. Not to mention this is how I'm trying to justify spending $12k for a used rinky-dink beach cat! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Chris9] #85996
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Thanks, you made my day!

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pst ..... its a great boat!!!!


A**hole! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Wet1] #85997
10/05/06 12:15 PM
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maybe you could use this one [Linked Image]


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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Banzilla] #85998
10/05/06 12:56 PM
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Crofton, MD
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huh?? you guys must have sailed with Chris before?


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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Wet1] #85999
10/05/06 01:01 PM
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Something like this?
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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Todd Berget] #86000
10/05/06 01:01 PM
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Which begs the question....

what is the ratio of "for sale" boats to total produced boats in the F18, N20, and F16 fleets? Does a high ratio necessarily mean it is a "dying" class or platform?

I believe there are more than 500 boats produced in each of the F18 and N20 classes, right? Would that give any statistical weight to this answer?


Jay

Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #86001
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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Wet1] #86002
10/05/06 01:24 PM
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Re: Suggestions on Cat? [Re: Wouter] #86003
10/05/06 04:02 PM
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What? Stop trolling you dork.

I made a joke guys ! [Re: Wet1] #86004
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I made a joke guys.

I wasn't pushing the F16 line here at all.

I would say that he should look for an inexpensive nacra 5.7 or 570 before going to a full I-20.

Wouter


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The Netherlands
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