I'm sure you're both nice guys, but SHUT THE [censored] UP! We don't have to turn every discussion into a left/right, liberal/conservative face off. Gheez; I thought you guys were just trading SA type, friendly insults.
BTW, I drive a Ford E150 van; have owned 4, all the but last one used. They work great for taking lots of gear and a family off on a vacation. They work great for loading sailing gear, just don't leave wet, salty gear in overnight...what a stink. I'd like to get a smaller car to drive to work, but when I compare the investment against gas money saved, I just don't get a good trade off. When money gets less tight, I might buy a cheaper car to go to work, but I'll have to keep the van for sailing.
