Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
I think just about everything will get taken out by a modern C -Cat wouldn't it? But, hardly anyone can afford one, very few sail them, even less build them.

I just want to know how this, or any of the other readily available foiling boats, do around the cans. Does this, the Phantom, or the Nacra 20 foil going upwind? Do they go upwind well? How ugly are the tacks and gybes?

This thing looks, really cool and right up my alley. But if it can't go to weather for crap, there's no point for me. That's the downside of any of these videos. You can't really tell how they would do against another design. Line it up against a A-Cat, an F16, and an F18 on a windward leeward and see how they stack up.

It sure looks stable!

I'd bet by the time you get one shipped to the US, it'd be pushing close to $40k.


I think there's some confusion on the terminology - I think somebody started talking about "c shaped foils" (which are old tech...I think they mean "J" boards like the America's Cup and C-cats used). Somebody mentioned C-cats and made it all confusing.


Jake Kohl