Jay, not knocking the H16 at all. Its a different boat than the F18 being discussed here, that was my point. My other point is you are going to have a tough time finding a faster boat than the F18 in the double handed category and getting more than 10 on a starting line at a Nationals here in the U.S. All the hype of the foiling boats is great, but for the average weekend warrior, an F18 is plenty!