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Re: Thoughts on foiling... [Re: Timbo] #280793
10/13/15 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Originally Posted by David Ingram
Foiling is a fad.


I don't know about that Dave...looks like even the lead haulers are getting into it, check out this video of a 'foiling' ocean racing mono, at about 1:25 the whole boat comes out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3on5CYbZP4


Gotcha! Hey Bob, you're right it is fun.


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Re: Thoughts on foiling... [Re: Timbo] #280795
10/13/15 06:16 PM
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That looks very cool... but is it any faster. I mean, they are still dragging around that anchor of a bulb.


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Re: Thoughts on foiling... [Re: Redtwin] #280797
10/13/15 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Redtwin
That looks very cool... but is it any faster. I mean, they are still dragging around that anchor of a bulb.


That's hilarious. SOOOOOOOOOO much work to try and be a multihull without actually being a multihull.


Jake Kohl
Re: Thoughts on foiling... [Re: Timbo] #280800
10/14/15 07:27 AM
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Is the purpose of those foils on mono to raise the boat or to add to the righting moment?

I would guess the later.

Re: Thoughts on foiling... [Re: A. Bourgault] #280803
10/14/15 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by A. Bourgault
Is the purpose of those foils on mono to raise the boat or to add to the righting moment?

I would guess the later.


There is a fair amount of lift angle when the boat heels enough to engage that foil fully. I would say that it is primarily to reduce wetted surface area of the hull by making it lighter through the water - but there is probably some additional righting force with it too.


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Re: Thoughts on foiling... [Re: Will_R] #280807
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We sailed it (S9) at TFW at Lake Garda about a week and a half ago, it was a fun little boat.
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I was told that there is still room in the container.
The bill for the complete boat (beach dolley with big wheels included) delivered to Texas is 17.5K USD
(14.5k EUR is the price ex factory plus 0.8K EUR of shipping).
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Re: Thoughts on foiling... [Re: Timbo] #280836
10/19/15 12:59 PM
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I think Jake is right. I wonder when will see enough lift off the boards that they need stabilizers on the rudders. Must happen eventually I imagine because foiling, even with partial lift, is just too fast to ignore. Amazing that a 12,000 lb or more keelboat is that lifted already.

Caftan, would be great to see the S9 develop as a junior boat if that makes sense. Small and perhaps more stable with wands on both sides.

For those who want to race foiling boats, you can alway get a foiling A-Class for about the same price as the S9 in the US (from $22K to $25K or so) and have a few hundred boats to race with.

Re: Thoughts on foiling... [Re: Timbo] #280841
10/19/15 03:35 PM
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Thats a sailboat in that video?

With the amount of spray coming over the "bow" I was certain that I was watching a video of the next generation of "green, wind powered" submarines that I'm sure we're paying for.

Re: Thoughts on foiling... [Re: Timbo] #280842
10/19/15 03:49 PM
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Another option on the market is the Reg White designed "Whisper" Jon at NorBanks Sailing just took delivery of a pair...

Re: Thoughts on foiling... [Re: mikekrantz] #280853
10/20/15 09:08 AM
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I just saw a Nacra 15 on a trailer with the foils... Looked like a nice junior boat (perhaps to ramp-up to the 17 - once they fix all those issues)...


Jay

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