I am still up in the air about sailing my boat on the Michigan circuit this summer- which means I would be racing against a lot of F17s. I probably wouldn't be scored against them but if we had the same start it would be fine. There are usually enough F17s to have their own start/class. I think it would be great fun. These boats are very similar and I think that the sailor makes the biggest difference of course. Give Fad an F16 and watch him spank the F17s... of course he would never go back <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />