With all due respect, what i am saying is i HATE political discussions here... i respect the right to debate politics and parties and agendas, but i loath it. I have friends that all they do is bash the govt. and are conspiracy theorist.. and i find it all negative, and detrimental to the public well being.

i don't care to hear people's opinion on whether it is negative, or needed, despite the fact that it may be needed and educational... It has been overblown, is hot air, and over kill.

i come here to learn about sailing and sailing topics.. not to debate if Obama is a socialist or Bush was idiot...