Thought it may be a good idea to get diverse opinion, ideas and concepts here on catsailors new forum on this proposed distance race being organized by the Tybee Island sailing Team along with input being sent into them directly. It may be of great interest to others planning similar future races.
here is a partial copy of Tybees race organizers post --
Some of you may know me and a lot of you may not!
My name is Chuck Bargeron and I own Team Tybee!. After this years Worrell 1000 and the fact that the boat for next years worrell will be changed. And, that I felt that the teams should have the right to pick the boat you sail and compete on, and will always feel that choice should be left up to the teams involved, In any race!
along with alot of others that have money in the boats we own now are looking into begining another distance race for those of you sailors that aready have boats within class rules 18ft and 20 ft, that can't raise the buckets of money or buy special boats to to field teams in the worrell 1000.
The race in mind will be from the Keys to Tybee Island. Also this race would be completed in one (1) week, with checkpoints along the coast and most important of all you can run what you brung, in the 18 and 20 ft class with spinnaker! And for the fun of it, we want to put in some prize money.
Now, if this type of race should interest you and you would like to comment, plese contact me at:
www.teamtybee.comI, along with some others are working on this and collecting idears from you and would like your in put.
By the way, I know for those that aready know about this race and that we are working towards making this happen. We are not looking to conflict with or go up against the worrell 1000. That is most important! Again we will be listening and look forward to hearing from you!
Thank-You
Chuck Bargeron
Manager and President
Team Tybee Island Sailing Assoc., Inc.
sent in the following suggestions
-Formula rules would work best in allowing all the same basic length weight beam and sail area inc shute cat designs to race equally and fairly with a minimum of controversey. In the 20 class this would include the list of production boats with shutes or added shutes --as follows --Nacra 6/0 -Hobie 20,-H-Fox -any F-20 boat inc Storm and others from Europe , Mystere 20 , P-19 -modified Tornado to 8.5 beam ,-and Inter 20 .
Ideally you would modify the concepts in the basic Worrell rules and add that it be sailed under Formula rules on production and all rules compliant Formula 18 and 20 boats,-- Adding the 18 Formula Class to draw in the Hobie Tiger and Nacra Formula boats is a great idea as well , they may start 10 or 15 minutes earlier in a seperate class. It would be especially good to have more Hobie Class partisipation {Tiger mainly hopefully the Fox and mod H-20S} represented in major distance racing.
Some suggestions ,-let me know how to help , planning to have an official Open Formula 20 web site up soon with rules photos boat modification articles and rigging and race photos ,
here are the F -20 rules as proposed -also found on Catsailor under the F-20 Forum -
---OPEN FORMULA 20 CLASS
For people of good will to race together for the enjoyment of the sport in accordance with the Racing Rules of Sailing and in the spirit of rule #2 of fair sailing under ISAF rules –To compete within recognized principles of sportsmanship and fair play.
Intent -.
To race 20-ft catamarans of various design features as a fleet on a first across the finish line wins basis, in buoys and distance racing.
Amendments—We wish to keep rules as simple as possible and rely on good intent of sailors in accordance with standard safety requirements per sailing rules and required gear and class principles as stated. Amendments per majority vote of active class members.
The Open-F20 Committee will propose amendments to the rule if necessary. Amendments shall be placed on one year’s notice unless it is considered essential to act immediately to prohibit an unseaworthy feature. Formula 20 boats will often be sailed in Worrell type distance racing events and all components are to be constructed accordingly and sailed extensively in varied conditions before competing.
Basic specifications - OPEN FORMULA 20.
LENGTH –20 ft one inch max. —Stern to bow meas.
BEAM - 8.5 ft –max.hull point meas.
WEIGHT –two categories of boat wgt. –376 Lb. and above
-410 Lb. and above
-Definition boat weights –boat sails and all att gear fully rigged
Boats may add permanently fixed gear and floatation to meet min.
Corrector weights will also be allowed for boats under 376lb. total.
SAIL AREA –two corresponding categories
376 min boat wgt –MAINSAIL =210 sq. ft inc. mast --53 sq. ft jib +270 sq. ft spin, max.
410 min.boat weight MAINSAIL =210 sq. ft – 60 sq. ft jib + 290 sq. ft spin. Max.
Increases of 7-sq. ft. in jib and 20 sq. ft in spin area in 34-LB boat wgt differential.
Sail area may be traded off from main to jib of equal sq. ft to allow modification and design variation of sail plan to any max. S A combination of smaller main in category
All measurements per ISAF measurement rules, --see diagrams and instruction.
-Roller furlers and main reef points may be used. -
-All teams to use the same set of sails for a regatta or distance race.
Sailmakers and owners to list sq. ft in 2 inch numerals at the tack of each sail next to the sailmakers logo with signature over. All sails are to be commercially available to any sailing team. Existing class cat designs will be accepted as listed per mfg. or sailmaker. -Racing will be on the honor system, but any boat may be challenged and checked along with the protesting party also being checked for weight and sail area compliance. Those not in compliance will be DSQ for those races.
CREW –One or more may be crew. -All must be capable of righting from a capsize.
-CREW WEIGHT –-A class min of 320 Lb., one half of weight below may be carried by lighter teams to meet min req.-Example –a 300 team may carry 10 LB s to meet min.
Wgt based on teams wearing standard swim apparel and shirt.
-MASTS –May be of alum. or carbon fiber in standard section tapered or uniform and a Max 32 ft length. With-standard wire rigging in any configuration.
-HULLS -BOARDS and RUDDERS–Of any standard material or configuration.
SPIN POLES –a MAX 13 FT. length may be used made of any material in standard configuration with snuffer configuration of any type.
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CLASS EMBLEM
The starboard side of the mainsail may carry the Open -Formula-20 logo of racing Formula 20s along with individual sail number for scoring purposes.
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Discussion input and diverse ideas and perspectives always add to the general pool of knowledge in consideration of structuring a major distance racing event like this one planned and others to follow.
Main topics left out presently would be to add the Formula 16 hp and 18 ht Classes with seperate starts for each and also a non spin rated class for other boats wishing to compete as well .
post away!!
Carl
