-In the 20 class this would include the list of production boats with shutes or added shutes --as follows --Nacra 6/0 -Hobie 20,-H-Fox -any F-20 boat inc Storm and others from Europe , Mystere 20 , P-19 -modified Tornado to 8.5 beam ,-and Inter 20 .
-Included the T as we definately wanted to include as many as possible in the F-20 Class with class min boat weight based on the T and there are 8.5 beam Tornados in existance and the opportunity to take excellent older Tornado basic boat or hulls and rebuild a F-20 boat with 8.5 bem which would be very competitive and relatively inexpensive.
Any 20 ft 8.5 beam boat with the similar Inter 20 carbon mast and same basic sail area will have similar or evan superior speed capabilities.
Would like to see the Fox rethought to outperform the I-20, and a similar retrofit package available for the Hobie 20 with a taller carbon fiber comtip replacement {half the weight ,} with new main and a really nice T type snuffer and shute system .
Below is an excellent copy of the shute retrofit system by Chris T he placed on his Nacra 6/0 ,--similarly applied to any 20 footer for about 1600 bucks.
The following is a copy of an excellent post by Chris T in fitting his N 6/0 WITH A SHUTE OVER THE WINTER , which can be applied to any 20 footer,-----
I have some pics of my boat with the spin/snuffer set up. I was at spring fever racing with this set up on my boat, Accelerated Chaos, and it seemed to worked great! I had a blast and don't see the need to change much after this initial regatta with the 'new' snuffer rig. More time and exerience with a kite around the bouys and I believe it will be competitive with most I20's out there, as proven by Rick Bliss at SF.
email me and I can send you pictures:
magichat4@hotmail.comjust as a side note, I spent less than 2K putting the rig together. 2K is a good estimate to plan on, but lower costs can be achieved. my prices included:
carbon spin pole from sailing proshop: 156.00
new 6.0 smyth spin @ 350 sq. ft.: 965.00? (aprox)
carbon snuffer head from dave white, a north east 6.0 sailor: 300.00
adapted snuffer bag from skip elliot: 110.00
slightly longer bridle wires: 80.00
additional expenses included the hailard, spinlock, and extraneous pieces of line
with a total cost of just over $1600.00
The deal with the spin head from Dave white is that he started building them as an alternative to the Inter heads that cost almost $200 more. (At one time he worked for Hall Spars) they are 100% carbon, aprox 2/3rds the weight of the inter heads, flat to give more wave clearance, and about 3/4" wider. I was amazingly happy with how mine worked and found that it accepted the 'football' that gathers in the larger sails more readily than the I20 heads did when I tried them. I believe he has plans to build more of these, but would certainly check with him before making any promises.
Rick Bliss at newengland catamarans was a great resourse for information and parts to put this system together. He is selling a snuffer head from austrailia that is also flatter and lighter for I believe $400, which is still a $75 savings over the Inter factory heads. I used this head as well and was very happy with it. I would suggest that anyone who is thinking of adding a snuffer system to their 6.0 talk to him about it and tap into his experience of the development that has happened here in the northeast.
once again, if you would like to see pics of this rig or hear more about it, feel free to contact me. I worked at putting this rig together this winter and would be glad to discuss what I have found so far.
sail fast and have fun~
Chris Titcomb
N6.0na 135, accelerated chaos
thanks so much again Chris for this info -
added note -
some older existing designs may be given dispensation ,--that is a trade off in design features such as a heavier mast and rig and smaller main in compensation for a larger shute for example upon owner request as per other existing Formula Classes to begin..
This will be tested during the year and found to be fair or not on the race course , and resolved accordingly by better minds than mine hopefully , though actual race results speak volumes.
Carl
