Good to hear. They are certainly looking to try new ideas in the 12s. The hull shapes were certainly in need of an update so will be interesting to see how the class develops.

He was also involved in a pretty cool 40ft yacht as well recently, so he gets involved in interesting concepts. That 40fter can do 9knots upwind which is better than a Farr40, with half the rail-weight. The foils on that one were certainly different (and not-canting as well)...

And Wouter, you seem to live by the adage "There is something wrong on the Internet and I must fix it!" Remember that it can be people's opinions and observations. We all live in various parts of the world and this is a place to note and discuss.