I make good points? Wow, I am impressed.

But all I have been conveying is past experience on my own boat (in the early days of F16), and also what I see in the local F16 fleet here in Singapore (which is still the world's largest).

Next time I am at the club (not this weekend, surfing in Bali instead) I will give you "beach measurements" of the Taipans and Vipers, and the Blade if that is out and about.