I think the poll is pretty now established where the final outcome will be, that as things stand, the Uni's are disadvantaged contrary to F16 class rules and the likes of SCHRS handicaps.

Now human nature being what it is, we all want to win, whether we admit to that or not, after all we are attending a competition and being a competition, we really want to win if we can.

Is the F16 ideal " broke " I don't think so, the whole concept of the class still stands, that of putting solo against dual, that of being a class for lighter weight all up crew weights. Its not the concept giving problems, its the modern day interpretation.

When the class was established a 5 metre length of boat would only have x speed, constrained by water length and RM dipping the hulls causing water drag. Hence the original calculations predicting that by simply dropping the jib would equalise the additional weight of the crew.

12 years on sail technology and hull design has changed those parameters and the original calculations are no longer valid. Perhaps Wouter should have a rerun on the calculator with what we know today and give us some views