I don't take Matt's post as "whining." And I don't attribute anything else to it above what he simply stated - they lost some cat sailors to big boats. I actually found myself talking to a guy last weekend about getting on a Snipe - a pin-head, slow, DDW wing-on-wing POS... but that is the class racing around here. You're right, Mike - racers are racers.

Anyone who wants to hijack the thread back to an HCA debate should just go read one of the threads where stooopit absolutes were eloquently expressed by both sides. I don't think that's what was intended in the original post.

I like the way Darryl says things are down under - I wish more cat sailors joined YCs and took advantage of what the clubs have to offer. I think there is a reticence or unwillingness to do so because cats are on trailers and fleets are so mobile - plus the money... even though many clubs are only a couple hundred bucks a year, that is far more than some of the association and fleet dues of old. I joined a club, but I'm pretty lonely because others feel it is too much of an investment.

Oh, and 204? You guys are doing it right, but face it. You are a YC... the dining room is just a bit of a hike from the bar and the beach, that's all. Your fleet is now indistiguishable from a good sailing association or small yacht club. Good on ya.


John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.