So I guess 3 out of 4 times we need it down, I never thought about it that way. My Mom taught me to put the seat (and the lid) down after every use. That way you won't accidently drop something into it, like a cell phone... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />


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