Hi Rolf All I would like to say is that Beer and sailing fast in my case no longer work!!!!! and my GP Kite is extremely good and without which I would have needed surgery to lick my EurOcat wounds...5-5 Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />