“Perhaps Maugan was a bit strong...but the manufacturer and designer bashing is wearing on me too. If everybody else is so bad why do they sell so many boats?”

Come on Jake…you already know the answer to that one…LOL…MARKETING!!!! More than quality of design... More than quality materials... More than after the sale support...it’s all about MARKETING! If you can get a person emotionally involved with a product, logic goes out the window.

What do you think was the cause of Hobie selling so many H16? A stellar beach cat design? Or the most brilliant advertising campaign in catamaran history selling the “Hobie way of life”?

How can you get mad at Bill for stating known facts about the H 16?? How can we move toward better catamaran designs if everyone pretends “it doesn’t get any better than this”, and ignores the glaring short comings of past designs? They call that denial…LOL

What I see in this thread is, logic clashing with emotional brand loyalty.

Bob