Enjoyed reading all the opinions and info --correction for Jay --it was David's example rather than mine .

Just read and saw on the news today that the president still refuses to negociate or talk directly with congress --our elected representatives ! I guess what they say is true --"the president is an extremist ideologue" . Problem is the damage that involves for so many of us not represented or interests addressed nor counted or cared for in his politically driven ideologue's adgenda .

Why can't the president meet and help find some common ground and solutions to the obvious ongoing problems with O CARE ? Why doesn't he seem to care about the concerns and real problems with it that are ongoing for so many millions of us ?

This episode in history illustrates once again how divisive and disfuctional our political class has become and how unequal,broken, and unfair the current system has become as result of being so divided as a people and nation.

Deflecting to blame insurance cos --well --its not the real problem --most understand this.

Our 2 party basic political system that served us so well in past U.S. history now is failing us due to all the usual failures as through all of human history --Sam noted the Roman empire and its collapse in example --base causes are much the same currently --human behavior has not really changed that much . Political power -information manipulation -political propaganda -extremist ideological adgendas ,money power ,greed -etc are the sources of human misery through history and among the tools used to pit one group of people against the other .

We need a new perspective or renewed higher understanding of the inequities and failure of our current system. We need to reject the red vs blue mentality that prevails in media and our inept political class.

Like it or not the nations 16 -17 trillion debt and trillion dollar budgets with near billion dollar political campaigns {per Obama and others }with resulting bad laws and poorly thought out often divisive legislation determine our existances and our well being. O CARE now largely controlling health care as million more of us are dumped into an already indept overloaded bankrupt system .

All we can realistically do is understand that the political system as it exists currently promotes one group of people and their interests at the expence of others represented by the other party and vice versa . This has been taken to such an extreme that it no longer really serves us longterm though does befit those in power and their political support money power groups shorterm .

Again Daves example of how the working person in the private sector is being beaten down -taxed fined feed and systematically eliminated as millions of small biz people have been in the last decade in record numbers illustrates that point . No one can afford that type of increase in costs

Contast Daves common working mans situation with those supporting the political party in power ---the power money political groups used as tools to divide us ---inc politicians themselves recieving cadillac type health care plans inc free viagra --

Perhaps a more centrist group of us will emerge neither red or blue but cognizant of how unequal the system is and dedicated to fixing the system and insuring ALL -as in "we the people" --are represented . If we are to be part of a collectivist ideology base system lets work to make it a free will rather than forced system . Lets work to correct the inequities and what is already shaping into a 2 tier system of health care --the upper tier for those in political power and their support money power groups with Cadillac type health care plans ----lesser care for the rest of us . --

Our future is still ours to shape --please remind those in power and their supporters of how unequal the system is and how it is failing millions --it only gets worse if we don't get involved .