Heck, I figure all this GW, GM, and PO stuff falls under the "meaningless discussion" clause of the preamble to the question in the initial post for this thread. For some, these topics have a direct relation to their choice of towing vehicles. For others, obviously not. It's interesting to see what people in different parts of the world think on these subjects. It's also interesting to see what counts as a credible source. Sometimes I think the internet has made it harder to separate fact from opinion. On the other hand, it sure makes it easier to find background information on most sources if you are willing to look.