Originally Posted by macca
Your hole is getting deeper Franck.... Keep digging and you may find the other side.

You must realise by now that you are the only one in here against painted hulls, there are more and more people joining the conversation against you. When are you going to get it in your head that you are wrong??

Time and again people present clear and logical arguments for paint and you continue to dribble on without acknowledging the facts presented to you.

Do you even know how contradictory your statements are? Or how messed up the latest Tech Com report is? You quoted this: "See extract from the last TC report:
"All TC builders who are using gel coat as the exterior finish wish to continue as they think that it is the best way for the Class. It is the most economical method of production, they have invested heavily in quality moulds to produce hulls with fine surfaces"

Of course they want to continue to use gelcoat!! they have invested in that method!! It is suitable for large production in low labour cost countries! The rest of us don't want to move our production to Asia, we wish to support European manufacturing, and if its more economical for us to use paint then we should be allowed to do so. You have as much knowledge of boatbuilding as my grandmother and she would never dream of telling me the most suitable way to build a boat and neither should you.



Andrew,
I join you in the dark hole and there is light on the other side smile
So I keep digging.
Remember, you should know that 10 satisfied people make less noise than one unsatisfied one.

Supporting European manufacturing is marketing speech or your own proven technical advice ?
Can you remind me where your F18 sails are product ?
It isn't a shame do not worry.

In European manufacturing when you are not wise enough to ask regulation before launching your production, you're dead.
Ask your grandmother, there is no reason to believe me.

Thank you very much for saying: "if its more economical for us to use paint then we should be allowed to do so"
I pay you the beer in Carnac.

Andrew, that is pure wishfull thinking and a key point: builders money interest do not rule F18, for the moment.
F18 rule process involved TC (builders giving advices), WC (mostly F18 sailors elected by F18 sailors: making decisions) and ISAF (controling).

And, as a F18 customer, I notice your (excellent) boat with plain finish (18.650 euro ex tax) is more expensive than some gel-coated one (17.290 euro ex tax) http://tinyurl.com/7v3wxst. Those figure are only price list.
But where is the customer interest in this saving of money, you claim ?

I answer all your questions, why you do not give me your opinion on this following proposition:

There is a very simple way to prevent your today situation.
If you want to make F18 with a "brand new process" or service.
Just ask if the rules allow that before.
TC can answer, or if there is no consensus, WC can make a clarification.
It works ! And in this kind of move, you show respect to F18 community (builders and customers).