Where it derailed is that Gordon and I talked at length abouit the 'exceptions' (which was a fair compromise, no question) and decided between us that we'd rather not go to the trouble to get IHCA rules committees and others involved in what we didn't feel would be a long term solution and having to deal with with it sooner than later seemed a better course of action for us. 15 pages later, I still think we were right to stop the train there. Who knows how many ruffled feathers there would be if we would have had to do this AFTER a successful HavaMega.