Yeah, the C class cats were trying foiling and hard wing sails what, about 15 years ago?

I think the aircraft design guys at Airbus are working with one of the AC teams too.

And I thought I read that Ellison got some help from Boeing last AC, just as they 'turned the boat around' i.e. started winning, after installed something that made it possible to foil upwind?


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